First archive of CJSFan's messages from April 2010 – October 2010.
Hi, welcome to PotC Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:CJSFan page.
POTC FILMS= Edit
You accidently wrote POTC films= instead of POTC films. I apologise if I wasn't suppose to mess with your page. 18.104.22.168 07:40, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
It's ok, I just realized that I made that mistake, but thank you for correcting my mistake for me. CJSFan 07:43, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
On Stranger Tides Edit
Yes, Blackbeard has appeared in On Stranger Tides, but On Stranger Tides is not a POTC book and there is too many differences between Blackbeard in the novel and Blackbeard in POTC universe. They cannot be the same person.
1) POTC Blackbeard has 14 wives and one daughter, OST Blackbeard has just 14 wives.
2) POTC Blackbeard is called Edward Teach, OST Blackbeard is called Edward "Ed" Thatch, but his real name is Johnny Con.
3) OST Blackbeard was killed at Ocracoke Inlet, his soul possessed another body, and he was permanently killed at the end of the novel, while POTC Blackbeard was killed at Ocracoke Inlet and his soul was imprisoned in the Buccaneer's Heart.
You see, they are totally different characters.--Uskok 15:01, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Vote system Edit
Hold on Edit
Um... from POTC:On Stranger Tides, you removed Max Irons from the list. Has he been confirmed to not come, or are you just stating your opinion, because in Summary you said : "I believe there is no need for him since he's working on different films - Midhav 04:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- I believe there won't be a need for him in POTC: On Stranger Tides, because:
1. Disney has already confirmed Sam Claflin(not Max Irons) to be in Pirates 4 as Philip, the missionary.
2. I've read that Max Irons was already confirmed to be in another film that's shooting in July called The Girl with the Red Riding Hood(in case you want to see proof, look in Google News). So unless if Irons could shoot 2 films at the SAME time, I don't think he would be able to be in any role for Pirates 4.
Basically, that's why I think that he won't be in Pirates 4, but that's just me. CJSFan 11:07, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with that information, because I've read it also. 22.214.171.124 11:11, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
But really, don't you think until it is confirmed that he isn't coming we should wait? Your points are very much true, but it hasn't been CONFIRMED by Disney that he isn't coming. Till then we should place in the article : Max Irons... Unconfirmed Midhav 15:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Don't get me wrong Midhav, I do agree with what you're saying. The only thing is, some of the articles that I have read said that they were going to film the Red Riding Hood in July, while POTC: On Stranger Tides starts shooting in June(confirmed by Jerry Bruckheimer himself). But, yes, I think we could put in the article: Max Irons...Unconfirmed, at least until it is confirmed that he is or isn't in the films(depending on what goes on between POTC: On Stranger Tides and Red Riding Hood). CJSFan 20:19, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
To become a Pirate Lord... Edit
- Ok...what happens after I read the "guidelines"(Don't worry, I've read them just now). CJSFan 20:09, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
As you can see, the Brethren's goal is to get nine members. For certain time, I was the only active Pirate Lord here, and I bypassed the rules of the Brethren to make Midhav a Pirate Lord. Personally, I think he deserved his title. Since he came here he has done many good contributions. But, since El Chupacabra's return, we have three active Pirate Lords. And I think it's best to keep to the rules know. I see that you are active, and that you are very interested in POTC. Just continue in this way and you'll have a good chances to become a Pirate Lord one day.--Uskok 07:40, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, we need sources for such type of information, and your source is...?--Uskok 07:57, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Aye, sources be needed there... I'm curious, what is their appearance in the movie? Whats yer proof? --MidhavDarkskull 09:37, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
- This website that revealed that Pirates 4 was having budget cuts. While they were telling us this, they also told us spoilers of a scene that was TAKEN out of the script AND a scene that will be shortened that INVOLVED the British.
- Want proof, ye say? Well, here's your proof gentlemen:
- And for future reference, please ask me about stuff I put in that seems unlikely AND make sure if it's true or not before you change it. And don't think I'm being a vandal by doing this, because I LOVE POTC to DEATH, and I would never make it a joke or put in false information(because like you guys, I do not want vandals taking over). CJSFan 11:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think we're suggesting anything about you being a vandal, Captain Jack Sparrow Fan Four. I think Uskok just changed it temporarily till you brought the proof. He might even revert it back if he considers it insufficient.
- Okay now, I read it. It specifies that British soldiers are chasing Sparrow across the banks of the Thames.... British soldiers can be of their general military or the Royal Navy. But what proof is it, that it is the East India Trading Co. which is involved? That way we are only guessing that they are... However, I can find this to be true. Jack Sparrow involved in the death of Lord Cutler Beckett...... arrest warrants up against him, and some soldiers spot him.-Midhav 11:44, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
That proves only that Jack will be chased by British soldiers, but it does not specify that this soldiers are Royal Marines. They can be infantry soldiers(famous Red Coats. There is no proof that this soldier in London are part of the Royal Navy. For now, we must wait until we have solid proof that Royal Navy will be involved in the story. But that thing about London can be mentioned in the article about Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides.--Uskok 17:06, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
I believe we can agree to put it on the article of Pirates 4, mostly because it has somewhat valuable information. But I do think that it will be the Royal Navy or the EITC, because I can't think of any other British troops that could be in Pirates 4(but don't worry, I shall wait until we know for certain if they're in it or not).
Just out of curiousity, where did you get "Captain Jack Sparrow Fan Four" from? My username is CJSFan(a shortened way of naming myself "Captain Jack Sparrow Fan"), but where did you get Four from? I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just wondering? CJSFan 20:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
LOL i thought it was CJS Fan4. Okay when I first saw that ur user id was CJS I immediately realized that it was Captain Jack Sparrow Fan... not after seeing ur template
-Midhav 03:43, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, we all have some type of mix ups once in a while. But even though CJSFan is short for "Captain Jack Sparrow Fan" and CJSFan would be more of a nickname than a username, I just chose it as my username because "User:CJSFan" is sorta better than "User:CaptainJackSparrowFan", but that's just my opinion. But I put what CJSFan stood for in the nickname section in my Biographical Infobox in my user page(just in case people were wondering what CJSFan stood for). CJSFan 04:14, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
Since we have done it to Blackbeard's appearances, should we do it for every other person that appeared in The Buccaneer's Heart? I know that we should do it to the characters that appear in the films, but I'm not sure if we should do it to Henry Morgan, Bartholomew Roberts, and everyone else who appeared in the comics, but didn't appear in the films. CJSFan 13:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC) No, we shouldn't, cause it's their first and only appearance in POTC universe.--Uskok 09:47, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Your favorite POTC quotes Edit
Barbossa said "Strike your colors", not "Raise your colors", during the destruction of the Interceptor.--Uskok 14:22, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, he does say Raise your colors. If you look in the Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl DVD, and use the subtitles, and listen carefully, you'll hear Barbossa say "Raise your colors" during the destruction of the Interceptor. But, he does say "Strike your colors" in the Pirates of the Caribbean (ride). CJSFan 15:13, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Why would he say "Raise your colors to his enemies"?
And I will ask about treasure of Devil's Anvil on Pirates Online Wiki. I think that I saw a chest similar to the Chest of Cortés in one video about Devil's Anvil on you tube, so it is possible that Barbossa took some of the treasure of Isla de Muerta with him to Devil's Anvil.--Uskok 08:17, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Why would he say "Raise your colors to his enemies"?
I don't know, it's just what it said on the subtitles of Curse of the Black Pearl, and it did sound like Raise your colors, so I would assume that he said it that way. I would not put up the quote unless if I'm 100% sure if I'm right(I know the quotes in the films very well).
And I will ask about treasure of Devil's Anvil on Pirates Online Wiki. I think that I saw a chest similar to the Chest of Cortés in one video about Devil's Anvil on you tube, so it is possible that Barbossa took some of the treasure of Isla de Muerta with him to Devil's Anvil.--Uskok 08:17, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. Because I sorta got confused about most of these changes that involves the films because someone talked about POTCO stuff(and the fact that we are sorta combining POTC wiki and POTCO wiki), so I didn't want to mess up something that was suppose to be changed.
And one more thing: I edited the quotes in the Piece of eight article to what Beckett and Gibbs actually stated. I know my movie quotes, and I am usually never wrong(but if someone points out something I usually double-check). As far as I know, those quotes(as of now) are correct. If I change them again to what your edit was, then you know I was wrong, but if it remains as it is from my edit, then that is what they said in At World's End. CJSFan 16:38, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
La Fleur de la Mort Edit
I don't know. Try to ask Regor for explanation.--Uskok 08:31, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Your Welcome for the images. I am very bored that's why I am inserting images to the pages you edit. It is fun for me. Do you like the images I put in so far? If not, I can find better ones. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 17:31, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
- I think that I added images to every actor or actress page so far. Are there any more pages that need pictures? I love the Geoffrey Rush picture too. The picture is from the World Premire of At World's End and Jack the monkey was allowed to come on the red carpet. The picture is great for his page! :KatBlueDog Hiya! 17:51, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the infoboxes on pages that need images. I have trouble with infoboxes. I am adding pictures right now. Google is my best friend right now.
- I am almost done adding all of the pictures. I am working on find a pic of Lauren Maher. If any more pages need a image please add them to the list. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 19:18, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
It was hard to find a pictures of the two navy guys. (Angus and Giles)They are both small actors but I found a picture from the movie. That was so fun to find the pictures. I can help with anything else if needed. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 13:28, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Line breaks Edit
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that Wikia uses XML, which is why line breaks should be formatted as <br />, not<br>. Also, is judgment spelled with an "e" on that particular quote? I am only aware of judgment being spelled without an e. Trip Endres 22:23, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Re:New Images Edit
Coolness , more pics to find. I will start looking for the new pictures soon. I have family over this weekend so I may have to delay the search until later. Don't worry, I will find the pics as soon as I am free. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 02:36, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for telling me what pages needed the images. It made my mini-project go alot faster. Have a wonderful Hoilday weekend. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 03:57, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I put the same picture on the film series page but it doesn't have the water mark website on it. :KatBlueDog Hiya! 23:59, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I will have to check out the article about On Stranger Tides. Have you read the book yet? The movie is based on the Book called "On Stranger Tides" by Tim Powers.Even if you don't read the book, this link has the plot summary.On Stranger Tides Book KatBlueDog Hiya! 17:45, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Well Done Edit
Well done mate! You and Kat have helped much by adding them, images especially. Well, I think you should ask Uskok only for opinions on new additions to the site. I'm just a Lord, not an admin. But personally I think it is great. Oh yea, I was reading your userpage sometime back. You wrote Pirates of the Caribbean Wikipedia instead of Wiki. Wikia is different from Wikipedia, though owned by the same. -Lord Midhav 11:09, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
Infobox and other thingsEdit
I know we have Actor infoboxes for actors, but can we put information about the directors, producers, etc. in the Actors infobox?'
- Well, since directors and producers aren't actors, I'll create a new infobox for producers, directors and other members of the film crews.--Uskok 08:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
And I am also wondering, is it ok if I put [image] in my infobox on my userpage? I'm just asking because I wanted a good pic of Captain Jack Sparrow for my "CJSFan userpage". That, and I don't know how I can do it without possibly getting in trouble(because honestly, I'm scared of the consequences of the "copyright law").
- Feel free to put any POTC image in your infobox.--Uskok 08:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Grettings again, I've noticed that there are articles that tell all about the installments in the Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow and Pirates of the Caribbean: Legends of the Brethren Court book series, but there's not even ONE article that tells of all the installments Pirates of the Caribbean films
- Well, all I can see is that your article is just a copy of the same name article from wikipedia. But I'll call for a vote about it, so that our users declare themselves if they agree that your article deserves to stay here or it should be deleted.--Uskok 08:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
We'll wait for another day so that all (active) users express their opinion.--Uskok 07:38, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Answering about La Fleur Edit
Hey i recommed you buy the books getting more exact info and the great andventures
to tell answer your question short Jack Sparrow become Captain of La Fleur because he saved it alone from Torrents, Torrents and defeated the rest of the crew with destroying the mast to land on them (the battle was ombord La Fleur) and Jack managed to victory over La Fleur the pirate code says if a pirate saves a ship it is he/she's
So that is how Jack became captain of Le Fleur in short i still recommed you read the books touh that was only undetailed told
On Stranger Tides Book Edit
I love the book too. As I said in the shoutbox, I think that I am on the same chapter as you are.It was confusing at some parts but a great pirate book. I will search for the pic of Stephen right after I write this. KatBlueDog Hiya! 16:37, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering where the image in your infobox is from. I will try to find a picture for Sam right now. Have you ever watched the bloopers from the pirates movies? When Johnny Deep makes a mistrake, he stays in character the whole time. If you haven't seen them, search on youtude or watch the special freatures on the dvds. KatBlueDog Hiya! 14:03, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for saying where Midhav is going. For my infobox image, I uploaded my favorite picture that I found on google. Now I can't upload pictures due to server work on the wikis.KatBlueDog Hiya! 18:47, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering where your infobox image was from because it looks amazing. It is one of my favorite pictures of Jack. I love those bloppers that you mentioned. Johnny is so funny in bloppers. My favorite blopper is when Sao Feng is trying to give Elizabeth his necklace and he pulls his beard off. He acts so funny when he says "My beard..." I also love in At World's end, when Barbossa and Elizabeth are trying to catch the two swords from below them. It was really funny when Elizabeth finally caught the swords and she cracked up. Where is Midhav going? KatBlueDog Hiya! 14:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Sure, I can add images on the pirates online wiki. I could only find a page for Pintel on PotCo wiki. The other characters you mentioned do not have pages yet.KatBlueDog Hiya! 13:56, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you CJS. I'm pretty sure that you will look after the wiki with helpful edits and additions for the upcoming fourth movie. I also believe that at this rate you will become admin on this wiki, considering that you are closing to probably 4 months here. I also think that you will be a permanent editor here even when the fifth and sixth movies come out, am I right? Well even I would have wanted to be an admin now, but it would be no use to take that title while leaving the wiki on you both (and El Chupabracha and WanderingShadow). I have a few requests to make for you. First is on this wiki. Can you, with collaborating with Uskok, make a category and template for Antagonists of the ENTIRE series? I would like to see all the villains come under one roof. One more thing I would request of you is some movie articles needed on the PotCo wiki. Would you be able to make summarized articles on Pintel, Ragetti, Mercer and Blackbeard? If you are going to do so, in summary write that you did so with my permission... Also categorize them as Pirates of the Caribbean Characters, not Pirates Online Characters and mention that they are currently NOT in the game. You can do this IF you want... Well nice knowing you again. Fair Winds and look after the wiki, posting every update to the fourth movie... filming starts on 14th of this month... maybe ye can add some filming video captures, savvy? - Lord Midhav 12:47, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Well mate, I'm just saying you will end up being an admin... It WILL happen.
Yes, absolutely. If I do say so myself, I am one of the TRUE fans of Pirates, but it would be for the films, of course(considering that I have not , and currently not planning to, playing Pirates Online)
I hope that when I come back I'll be seeing you as an admin. I suggest you get into the PotC prequels... content for Legends of the Brethren Court is needed much. As for Pirates Online, the big updates are only starting to come now... there are a list of things they said they will be adding, which I put on Uskok's page... But I'd suggest that if you were to ever play the game, you should join around the time On Stranger Tides releases, because then only a big budget will be put into the game, and it should adapt the series well, like they did for Lord of the Rings Online
I shall consult Uskok about that and see what we should do about that. Either that or if we should even do that(you know, because it depends on Uskok's judgement).
Yes he is currently the only or most acctive admin here... that's why I said that he should make you an admin :)
Like I said before, I can't gather and post information about Pirates Online. But considering that you have told me to do so, I can put the information about the PotC films in there. I shall try my best to do that ASAP(it might not happen TODAY, but I shall do it sometime in the next few days or so). And to whom should I contact on PotCo wiki about that I had your permission to do this(just in case if something should happen)?
Yes. Uskok would anyway end up posting this info. But Mercer, Pintel and Ragetti are missing I think... So it would be best to do that as well as Blackbeard. Pirates Online said they WILL adapt the game to the fourth movie. Right now, the main villains are Jolly Roger and Cutler Beckett (along with their minions), and members of Davy Jones' Crew. Davy Jones and the Kraken are coming soon, and I guess so will Blackbeard. I've heard talk of Sea monsters... I have suggested the Shadow Lord and other evil forces from the series. Right now, you should just tell the bureaucrat ElizaCreststeel (a man) that you're going to do it...
Farewell, fellow PotC fan. I shall post updates on PotC: OST. And I am waiting, in anticipation, for it to start filming on the 14th(of this month). As for any types of images, videos and such, I will not be able to help, unfortunately. You see, I'm not sure if it'll happen, but I'm afraid if I try and upload something from another website, then I'll get sued(for violating the copyright law). But I shall post the websites where the images(or videos) are located.
I think what I meant by videos, is that you should embed the URL of a Youtube video here. Just click on video on top and add the URL to the video. Either way, I really don't think there will be a single chance of any site coming and sueing either you or this site for taking their pictures... This is a Wikia site, they can't do anything, and they wouldn't even bother
I think you are doing a great job and I am working to add some more pictures. You can take whatever you want! Thats why I put them there. If you need anything else, you can just contact me. --Darth Stefan (Talk) 16:23, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
re:Lord Midhav's request Edit
We don't need categories and templates for Antagonists. Current templates are quite enough. And the article about POTC series will stay, but it needs better picture.--Uskok 07:39, June 5, 2010 (UTC) Look now at the article.--Uskok 08:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Images for PoTCo Edit
That would be a great gift to see POTC 4 for a graduation gift. I will must likely see the movie in theaters with my family. Do you know if it will be in 3D? KatBlueDog Hiya! 14:50, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
I will check the article next time I have a question. I was asking you because you seem to know alot about the next movie. How are the articles coming for PoTCO? KatBlueDog Hiya! 16:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
It's me Angelica Teach. I got banned from the forums we were all talking in for God knows what reason (the message actually said that no reason was specified for my ban). Were you or Sean B. banned too? This really stinks.... Angelica Teach 23:19, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Anyway, on an entirely different note, I was curious: have you ever read any of the Jack Sparrow books?
I've been unbanned from the forums!!! I just went back and I got on no problem. What about you? I think there must have been a mistake or something... maybe a virus?
Anyway I answered the last questions about my info on On Stranger Tides that you asked on the forums so if you can get back on, make sure to take a look. 126.96.36.199 03:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
Sean B.'s been unbanned too... he just left a new message in the On Stranger Tides forum a few minutes ago. Maybe you might want to try again to see if your ban has been lifted as well?Angelica Teach 04:49, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
Well maybe in a couple of hours or even by tomorrow your ban will be lifted. I mean, you did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong at all, and if Sean B. and I got let back on there's no reason they won't let you come back soon. Angelica Teach 05:00, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
re:Barbossa's sword Edit
Queen Anne's Revenge Edit
Please, can you ask Terry about the name of Blackbeard's ship in POTC4?--Uskok 11:57, June 9, 2010 (UTC) Ok, thanks for info.--Uskok 16:19, June 9, 2010 (UTC) Yep!--Uskok 16:27, June 9, 2010 (UTC) Ok!--Uskok 13:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
Admin Probs... Edit
Well it turns out that Uskok was not a Bureaucrat at all. Thus he cannot promote you. He said that he has "to ask a Wikia Admin for administrative rights" for you... Idk... We'll have to wait and see. - Lord Midhav 14:52, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Okay.. I have a query from you.. Can you tell me the site where Terry Rossio replied to you or posted news? I would like to ask him or suggest him something just in case. - Lord Midhav 08:57, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to ask him anything. I just wanted to suggest one thing for his script just so he doesn't mess up the current storylines created... With that thought, and the fact that I recently saw a PotC:OST site (with all its suggestions for the fourth movie, such as things not to do), I think I would like to suggest some more. The reason for me wanting to personally send a message to him is because I want to have a first time contact with a celeb... I will not tell anyone at all of the e-mail, considering the implications it COULD have on him replying to people. - Lord Midhav 14:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I initially thought I was going to have to tell him about getting the info from you, but since you say so, I swear I will not tell him about you. The story I want to tell him about is basically prequels and such. You see, we are having mermaids for the fourth movie. Now, in the prequels mermaids have already come and they have an Isla Sirena. These should at least be mentioned, and the mermaids story should go as they have with the prequels... Maybe I'll add a link to the PotC wiki on the Mermaid articles... Once he replies, I shall also give him the other suggestions that I have found on one other site. Maybe I shall ask him a small amount of questions. But I shall go according to the rule of sending a message once every 2 weeks (and getting the reply during that time.) - Lord Midhav 05:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
re:Teague's first name Edit
Currently, our only public sources for Teague's name are At World's End video game and POTC Online. One game cannot be more canonical than other, so I propose that we wait until we hear Teague's name in the fourth movie.--Uskok 09:00, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, well, I won't be making that mistake again.--Uskok 17:01, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
re:Countdown clock Edit
That would be great. But I'm not so experienced in making such things. You'll need someone else to call for help.--Uskok 14:14, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Good luck!--Uskok 15:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hello there! I just recently got back from vacation, and if there are any images (sometimes more specifically screenshots) you want me to find, feel free to post on my talk page! Oh, and congratulations on becoming an administrator! -- Keeper of the Code 20:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC) (Captain Teague)
Excellent work, you've really earned your position of Administrator.--Uskok 09:43, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, it turns out that I was a bureaucrat all this time, but I didn't know that until yesterday.--Uskok 07:25, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
Hey again! The videos idea is very nice in my opinion. I actually wanted to do it a month or two ago but I didn't. It's really strange that the articles here don't have these vids. Probably you can add more than trailers... such as bloopers and special features, etc. etc.?? Ah lol. I wanted to be admin temporarilly so I could change the side bar as one of my things... Apart from that I do have something up my sleeve that will surprise you all... once I learn it... Good job. - Lord Midhav 10:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for the welcome. I have a quick question for you: do I have to put some sort of "spoiler warning" header whenever I write something about On Stranger Tides? I saw one on the Weatherby Swann page because of info from At World's End, even thoough that movie's been out for ages. Thank you.
Its Maxxie from over on the comming soon chat site, it all got a bit heated and weird on there so have stopped using it for now which is a shame. I found this place n then realised you and angelica teach where here on it too, weird huh? Anyway this site is all very confusing. But yeh Hey :-) Our Song Will Tear Open Your Heart, & You Will Beg For More. It Will Tease You With Your Greatest Desire Till You Grow Mad 22:54, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry and It's Still Wrong Edit
I'm sorry I edited the On Stranger Tides portion of the wikia: I was under the impression we could add to it as we pleased, I didn't know we were going for what nothing but what the publisher summary says. Again really, really sorry, and thank you for pointing my mistake out to me.
More importantly however, if you go back and read what I posted to Uskok, my point was that according to most canonical sources, Jack Sparrow's hair is clearly VERY DARK BROWN. Not only in the movies, but also in the books, in Disney-created Jack Sparrow costume kits (I have several and the JS wigs are all BROWN) , coloring books, Kingdom Hearts and Pirates of the Caribbean online, Jack Sparrow posters, action figures, even other wikias etc. The comics are just one source of material and lets face it, color schemes in comics can often be screwy. I really don't see how the comics should be the only reason his hair is classified as black on this wikia when there are so many other sources, including the POTC movies themselves, that clearly identify it as dark brown. Again, please see the picture I have of Jack on my user page: there is no mistaking that man's hair for black. Thank you for your help, and again really sorry for any hassles I may have caused you with my edits.
Hey thanks for letting me know, i made the mistake by accident and didnt know how to change it. Our Song Will Tear Open Your Heart, & You Will Beg For More. It Will Tease You With Your Greatest Desire Till You Grow Mad 08:54, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
Still Not Right Edit
Um, in all the pictures from the movie you posted, the scenes are either dark or Jack is standing in shadow: his hair is very dark brown and looks darker because of the shadows on it. That happens to a lot to people with really dark brown hair (heck it happens to me in pictures all the time in real life). Again, I'm begging you, if you take a good look at the picture of Jack I have on my user page, which is extremely well-lit (its in open sunlight), you will see that his hair is actually a DARK BROWN. If you need even more proof, check out the pictures at these links: http://frecuenciax.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/captain20jack20sparrow.jpg, http://www.erasofelegance.com/entertainment/movies/pirates2/pir48.jpg, http://www.retro.com/employees/lee/Pirates/JackCaps/JackInChains12.jpg, http://www.filmedge.net/potc3/images/0322/ElizabethJack.jpg. There is no mistaking it. I mean really: TEAGUE'S hair is black, and you can see a noticeable difference between the color of his locks and Jack's. Furthermore, in ALL of the Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow books (City of Gold, The Siren Song, etc.) you can clearly see from the illustrations that his hair is brown. The Brethern Court illustrations look like they were purposefully drawn with a lot of black pencil to give the character an edge, but even the illustrations of hair in those don't look completely black. Also, I have Jack Sparrow costumes from all three movies that I bought in one of the official Disney stores, and the wigs they provide in those are ALL DARK BROWN. Also, check out these wikis, one of which is a jack sparrow costuming wiki:http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Sparrow, http://jacksparrowcostuming.wikispaces.com/Beard+and+Makeup. His hair is clearly listed as dark brown in both of them. Furthermore, in my At World's End video game, Jack's hair is clearly dark brown, just check the pic at this link: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/piratesofthecaribbean3/images/0/3/?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=thumb%3B3. There are scenes where he's in shadow and his hair may look really dark, but when the scenes are all light his hair is clearly dark brown. Finally, check out this set of instructions for how to make a Jack Sparrow wig: http://www.ehow.com/how_5398067_make-jack-sparrow-wig.html. I know I'm being nitpicky about this (I'm a big geek, I can't help it) but its like almost EVERYONE in the fandom knows his hair is very dark brown: that's what everyone in every POTC discussion board and fanfiction site I've ever been to has stated or categorized it as being (and God knows I've been to hundreds) and for some reason this wikia is listing it as black when its clearly not. Can't you just list it as "very dark brown"??? Thank you for all your help and sorry I'm being a pain about this, but I just really like this wikia and I want it to be in line with the vast majority of canonical sources (including the movies themselves). Captain Lacey 14:40, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
Uh, I know this is technically none of my business, but just to help resolve the situation I'd like to shed light on this. CJSFan, if you remember I once told you that I have a friend who has an in with a couple of Disney employees (she was the one who passed along the Megan Fox information to me), and I contacted her a couple of days ago to see if she could email someone in touch with the concept artists or costume/wig people about this issue (because like Captain Lacey I always saw Jack's hair as brown: I even tried editing his page to reflect this), and she got back to me and said that according to her sources, his hair was designed by both the concept artists and the wig artists as a 'chocolately brown', which is obviously very dark. Hope this helps. Angelica Teach 14:49, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
We have an accord matey! Thanks again for putting up with a nitpicky little pain in the arse (I'm just really obsessed with all the little character details: I know I'm weird) and being so helpful. Love what you've done with your user page by the way (very well put-together). Captain Lacey 22:02, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't think that we need so much things in monaco-sidebar. It's all right to have Film characters, Game characters... but Pirates, Royal Navy/EITC, Black Pearl's crew... are too much. For such things we have categories, and they are quite enough for people to find information which they need.--Uskok 17:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this isn't World War II to have "Allies" and "Enemeies". And most of your "neutral" character weren't neutral at all. Ragetti and Pintel were on the pirate side all the time (which means against the law), and James Norrington was on the side of the law; even when he served on the Black Pearl, he hasn't commit any act of piracy. And we don't know if Blackbeard will be Jack's allie or enemy. Bruckheimer said that there will be some Spaniards in the film, so maybe the Spanish Royal Navy will be Jack's main opponent now. And Maccus isn't so important to be added to the list. So I propose that we just rename Main Characters into Main Film Characters and Supporting Characters into Supporting Film Characters.--Uskok 08:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
Quick Question Edit
Hey CJSFan I hope this doesn't sound stupid but, is there a limit to how long the plot sypnosises for each of the prequel books I provide should be? Like, what's the maximum amount of paragraphs that I should use for each synopsis? Again I'm sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I don't want to mess this all up and provide summaries that are either way too long and draw out or else too short and not detailed enough. Thanks. Angelica Teach 17:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
- I think that video should be added to the Armada of the Damned article.
I agree. Feel free to do that.--Uskok 13:59, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
- I have the same problem, I cannot upload that video.--Uskok 16:45, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
About to Post First Plot Synopsis Edit
I'm about to post my plot synopsis of "The Coming Storm". If you see anything you think I need to change or tweak, please let me know. Thanks.Angelica Teach 04:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
re:Page Title Edit
Done.--Uskok 11:00, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
Sypnosis for "The Caribbean" Edit
I'm about to post my plot sypnosis for the first Pirates of the Caribbean: Legends of the Brethren Court book, "The Caribbean". I'm really really sorry it took me so long to get it up: between school and the holiday it took me a while to go back and skim over the whole book (its 230 pages) to make sure I got all the important details. Let me know if you need anything changed. Angelica Teach 23:21, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
I'm working on the second "Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow" novel, The Siren Song, as we speak (I had actually lent out my copy of the book to a friend for a few weeks; that's why I decided to do the synopsis for "The Caribbean" novel first). Incidentally, there's actually 12 more "Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow" novels I need to summarize (including the most recently released book, "The Tale of Billy Turner and Other Stories"). Angelica Teach 00:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Oh yes, "The Tale of Billy Turner and Other Stories" would definitely have to be in any list of the prequel books, as it is the final "Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow" novel and ties into the "Legends of the Brethren Court" series.
Oh and by the way there's something I've been meaning to tell you: while the fifth book in the "Pirates of the Caribbean: Legends of the Brethren Court" series, called "Day of the Shadow", was supposed to hit the shelves on November 24, 2009, it actually has yet to be released. There is currently no word on when exactly Disney plans on publishing the book (this isn't the first time this has happened with one of the prequel books though, so I'm sure it'll come out eventually). Anyway I'm obviously not going to be able to put up a synopsis for "Day of the Shadow" until they finally come out with it and I can get myself a copy, just so you know. Angelica Teach 03:23, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
re:Legends of the Brethren Court Edit
Legends of the Brethren Court are set 10 years before the events of the first movie, and the Armada of the Damned is set 10 or 15 years before the same events.--Uskok 01:13, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, in On Stranger Tides novel, the Fountain of Youth is a location.--Uskok 05:49, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
Video of Pirates 4 Being Filmed Edit
Hi there CJS! I found this video of Pirates 4 being filmed. You can see Kevin McNally and several others.
An edit - here's footage of stuntmen practicing their sword fighting.
Haha sorry for editing a little too much, but here's a new set photo of Geoffrey Rush.
Captain Teague 21:59, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Black Bart and Spoiler Warnings Edit
I mean, we can keep the AWE video game article the same, but we can't write that Jack and Black Bart meet(after Jack starts his search for the Fountain of Youth), in Black Bart's article.'
- Yes, we can, cause it doesn't contradict Jack's appearance in OST, yet.
So, what do you think of this idea of putting quotes from the ride(instead of warning about pirates, we warn about spoilers), into the main page?
- That would be great. Feel free to do that. By the way, have you seen this "new" Barbossa? He looks like Long John Silver to me.--Uskok 10:40, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
re:Skull with Crossbones Edit
I don't know how to change it but I'll try.--Uskok 10:29, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
Siren Song Synopsis Edit
I'm about to put up my summary for The Siren Song, just to let you know. Angelica Teach 05:39, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
re:Jack's sword Edit
Yes, we can say that his sword was reforged, cause his sword can be seen complete before the end of POTC 3, when he walks with Scarlett and Giselle.--Uskok 11:11, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I found out how to do it(although I have to make sure I know how to work it)
- If you know how to do it, do it.--Uskok 11:11, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
Barbossa's sword Edit
We could rename the article into Hector Barbossa's swords and add the information about his new sword.--Uskok 08:37, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- The logo is satisfying, and the video is just fantastic.--Uskok 09:17, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
Comic-Con Video Edit
Sorry it's of horrendous quality, I did the best I could to download it in HD haha (I'm still making some screenshots)
Captain Teague 20:23, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, as long as it works visually on this Wiki, I'm great(I mean anything's better than the video from yesterday, which I do admit didn't have as good of a quality). And sure, you can continue making screenshots(I'm already choosing between 2 of the pics). Oh and let me know when you've completed getting the screenshots(so that way, I can make my decision, lol). I'm so excited for the film right now(I'm sorry, I just HAD to say it, lol). CJSFan 20:30, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I just finished making the screenshots, and I uploaded the video onto my own YouTube page, so it's embeddable. Captain Teague 20:33, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up(about the screenshots). And the video is up right now, and I also used the new logo for the main page and the film's article(it looked awesome, so why not use it lol). :) CJSFan 20:41, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Hehe, yeah - and good thing I took the screenshots ahead of time, since the original HD video is set to private now Captain Teague 20:46, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Honestly? lol I'm glad you got it when you did. ;) CJSFan 20:48, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah and thanks! Now I just need to learn how to take screenshots on Windows Media Player if needed...(I already know how to do this when there's a DVD in the CD drive haha) Captain Teague 20:50, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
Quote of the Day Edit
Yes, we can change it into "Quote of the Week".--Uskok 10:23, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Beckett on the Endeavour is nice... or I'll give you something after a few days... I'm VERYbusy with my exams now. Ships, Locations, Weapons, Creatures, etc. would be nice additions to the box mate. See ya soon - Lord Midhav 11:23, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
I'm noticing that under the character info boxes, "height color" is listed instead of just "height". Is there any way to fix this? Angelica Teach 04:19, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't think "height color" was intentional ;) Angelica Teach 16:18, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Barbossa Article Edit
Your very welcome! I thought the "zombie" thing was really weird because they never used that word to describe the pirates under the curse in movie 1, and also because of what you mentioned, about the zombies in Pirates 4. I think it was put into the article because the website used as the reference for the section on the action figures described Jack as a "zombie", but since we all know that's incorrect I figured there was no reason not to just describe him as "skeletal" (since that's really the phrase everybody uses to describe the cursed pirates to begin with). Captain Lacey 17:34, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Jack the Monkey Image Edit
No problem. Just give me five minutes ;)Angelica Teach 17:12, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Okay the new image is uploaded. Hope you like ;) Angelica Teach 17:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
It's SO funny that you would ask me to upload a picture of the dog from the DMC after credits scene because I did it JUST before you asked me to. How crazy is that?!? LOL Angelica Teach 18:12, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Well for the AWE after credits scene, you already have the best frames of Will Jr. on the Dutchman as well as Elizabeth AND Willian Turner III both facing the camera, so if you wanted to stick with one of those I could provide you with a BIGGER shot of either if you were interested. Or, if you want something different, I can get you a really nice close-up shot of Willian Turner III, or a cool shot of Elizabeth and Will III looking out onto the sea, with their backs turned to the cameras and their bodies in silloutte. It's up to you: just let me know what you want and I can get it for you Angelica Teach 18:45, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Well personally I think it should be either of these two, but I'm not sure which. What do you think?: Angelica Teach 20:24, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Would you say this looks better? Angelica Teach 21:39, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
AWE After Credits Pic Edit
I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to look any fuller than this. If it's still too flat I'd suggest trying your friend.Angelica Teach 22:26, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
AWE Pics Edit
Hey I'm not sure if you've noticed, but two of the new pics on the AWE page aren't showing up. Specifically the "Fate and the Fountain" and the "Epilogue" ones. Angelica Teach 03:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm not sure how it happens, but it usually does that(it happened a few nights ago). All you have to do is clean up your browser, and the pics should show up(one of my mates here told me that). But if you clean your browser and they don't show up, well, it'll take some time(I couldn't see the images I added yesterday, to the Dutchman's page, until today). I hope this advice helps. ;) CJSFan 04:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice: I can see them perfectly now ;) Angelica Teach 16:36, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
- :You're welcome :) CJSFan 17:21, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
H.M.S. Providence Edit
I'm just curious: where did you find out that Barbossa will be the captain of the H.M.S. Providence? Angelica Teach 05:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
I'm an unregistered contributor, and my "account" was temporarily put on hold for "violating" by you. I just want to say that I did nothing wrong. One only edits I made were when I edited Davy Jones's pipe page and got rid of the link that went to the person Silver instead of actual silver. Another was getting rid of the picture of the Black Pearl on the Pirates Online page because the picture isn't from Pirates Online. Last, I edited a quote from the Pirates Online website itself about Mary Lash. In fact, there is a message saying it needed a quote. I just don't understand how this is violating anything. Everything I did I was just trying to help and I didn't add any gibberish. Please get back to me. P.S. I didn't mean this to be offensive, I just wanted to know what I did wrong so I don't make the mistake later.
- Oh ok thanks a bunch :) I don't mostly edit the wiki unless I go to that page pretty frequently but I was just curious why I was just blocked. 188.8.131.52 01:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
re:Sidebar, World's End and Black Sam's Spit Edit
- Since Isla Sirena currently doesn't appear in the movies, i think it doesn't need to be in the sidebar.
- Yes, we can swith Black Sam's Spit as you have proposed.
- If the official website says that it's the Farthest Gate, than it's the Farthest Gate (also known as World's End).
- Blackbeard's pic is good, but I think that the British flag on the Providence is wrong. The pic of the QAR will stay for know, until we get some better image.--Uskok 09:36, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
Ok thank you so much and I'll keep all that in mind :) 184.108.40.206 15:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
Hey Captain :)
Just thought I'd let you know I uploaded the sypnosis for Jack Sparrow: The Timekeeper a few minutes ago. Next up will be Dance of the Hours. Angelica Teach 02:10, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
re:Armada of the Damned video Edit
There are several videos with interviews about Armada of the Damned on youtube. I think it's better to just use videos that shows the gameplay.--Uskok 09:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Article for Jack's Family Edit
The pleasure would be all mine :). And don't worry: it's NEVER an imposition to ask for my help regarding this awesome wikia ;). I just have to clarify one thing though: this article is meant for the Jack Sparrow page itself, right? (please forgive me if this sounds like a really stupid question but I don't want to mess anything up unintentionally). Anyway I'll get to work on it right away and should have it in sometime today. Angelica Teach 04:52, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
The only family member whom I think has enough information to warrant an entire page is Jack's "Grandmama", but apart from her everyone else (Uncle "Ace", Valerie, etc.) are only mentioned in passing. So, the best bet would probably be to either only make an entire page devoted to Jack's family or make that page but also a separate one for "Grandmama" like you have for Jack's mother. I'm up for whatever you guys decide ;) Angelica Teach 01:20, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
re:Jack Sparrow's family Edit
Sparrow Family Article Edit
Okay, one article it is :). However, I just need to clarify that the majority of Jack's relatives are only mentioned in like one sentence each, so don't be surprised if there's only like a little bit of info on everyone 'cept "Grandmama", 'kay? ;). Also, quick question: there's some really interesting information about Teague from Jack's childhood in the book,should I put that in the article too? Angelica Teach 00:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
I'm really sorry to keep bothering you but I'm still unsure about what to do with the Teague info because the way its revealed in the book, it's more about how Jack is affected by it in the context of his troubled childhood and family life so I don't know whether to put it in the Sparrow Family article or Jack's page.Angelica Teach 01:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Splendid idea, Captain :). I'll be sure to update both the Teague and Jack pages once I'm done with the Sparrow Family Article (which I'm about to create right now, so "keep a sharp eye out" ;) ). Angelica Teach 01:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, the article's up :). I included all the info available about each of Jack's family members except Teague and his mother, which I left up to you like you asked ;). If there's anything you want changed or altered, please let me know. And I apologize in advance if I didn't organize the info in the "correct" way for the wikia: I really wasn't sure how to put it so I just wrote it similar to the way it was revealed in the book. Angelica Teach 02:21, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Umm.. CJS. I am going inactive from Sept 6th-22nd. I will not be active and any of the wikis, and thus will not be able to reply to our last discussion.. Ye'll have to wait till then.
thanks for the help Edit
Thanks for the help on my page, it looks better now. I'm starting to get the hang of it and that helped me know what to do so thanks much.
ok got it Edit
Oh ok I thought the signature was just optional. I will be pretty busy as well during monday through friday Captain Josh Samsorrow 21:28, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
re:Flying Dutchman duel Edit
The pics are OK, I can't see anything wrong in them.----
Pre-Credit Sequence In Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Revealed Edit
re:Jack's piece of eight Edit
No need to apologize, you were just doing your civic duty! --Uskok 06:33, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
re:Curse of Cortes Edit
If we make an article about the curse of Cortes, then we would need to make articles about the curse of the Flying Dutchman, and the curse of James Sterling... A section will be enough.--Uskok 11:07, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Do as you wish.--Uskok 11:18, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
Oh geez, I'm so so sorry Captain: I didn't realize you had another image like that one up here :( Please excuse my mistake....Angelica TeachQueen Anne's Revenge 22:32, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
re:Main Page image Edit
Why not? The new image looks good.--Uskok 11:20, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
My logo won't work.--Uskok 14:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
I never saw that picture. I don't have any idea where are they.--Uskok 09:17, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
re:Six Sea Chanties Edit
- What do you think?
I think that we'll soon have a lot of work. I hope that they'll explain how Blackbeard survived the battle of Ocracoke Inlet.--Uskok 14:52, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
It's better to leave the current image in the infobox. And maybe Barbossa won't use his uniform through the whole movie, maybe he'll change back to his pirate gear.--Uskok 07:32, October 14, 2010 (UTC)